08/09/2026
🧩 Can inclusion reproduce exclusion?
Put on your headphones as we explore the next puzzle in the new podcast, The Ontology Lab, hosted by the Crisis, Politics and Law Academic Team at ISS.
In Episode 2, ISS Associate Professor Karim Knio is joined by University of Amsterdam PhD researcher Daniel Zach Sloman to explore a curious contradiction at the heart of inclusive governance.
Governments and institutions have spent decades trying to make governance more inclusive. Yet inequality and exclusion persist. Sometimes, Zach argues, the very mechanisms designed to include people can produce new barriers, a phenomenon known as adverse inclusion.
But before we can decide whether something is inclusive or exclusionary, there’s a more fundamental question to wrestle with: what do inclusion and exclusion actually mean?
🎧 Listen to our second episode now:
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